Timbersaw

Timbersaw 23 + 3.2 16 + 1.6 23 + 2.7
Movement speed	290
Attack speed	100
Turn rate	0.6
Vision range	1800/800
Attack range	150
Projectile speed	Instant
Attack animation	0.36+0.64
Base attack time	1.7
Damage block	8
Collision size	24
Legs	2
Gib type	Motor

Hero

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Rizzrack, the Timbersaw, is a melee strength hero that excels in dealing damage and causing destruction in large areas. His effectiveness is highly dependent on the presence of trees in the surrounding environment, as they can amplify the damage of his spells and allow him to escape and chase easily. He is not naturally very durable, having unusually low health for a strength hero and almost nonexistent armor from the start of the game, but becomes far more resilient when he has been repeatedly attacked due to his Reactive Armor, providing him both with a hefty amount of armor and regeneration. This can make him a huge nuisance to deal with in the early and midgame, when spell damage output is low from enemies and they are reliant on physical attacks to harass him. His three active abilities all have very low cooldowns and the capacity to deal pure damage, which is unreduced by magic resistance nor armor, making him a very destructive hero if left to his own devices. Whirling Death deals damage to enemies in a small area around him, and will deal bonus damage if trees were cut down with its usage; it also lowers the primary attributes of the afflicted, being especially effective against enemy strength heroes as they lose a portion of their maximum health pool. Timber Chain serves as a multipurpose mobility and damage spell, allowing him to quickly close distant gaps between himself and enemies and escape, but requires a tree to latch onto. Finally his ultimate, Chakram, can deal considerable pure damage and slow all at a very low cooldown, but can be difficult to land. With proper positioning and timing, he can cause massive damage to multiple enemies all the while debilitating their attributes and movement.

Bio[edit]

Rizzrack, the Timbersaw

▶️ "I'm not a lumberjack. This. This is personal."

Lore:

Rizzrack could still hear the screams in his mind. He worked, frantically turning wrenches, twisting screws, building and carving and forging. Sleep eluded him; he only built. Months had passed since he had shut himself in his uncle's workshop, and his deliverance was nearly complete. He rubbed his back as his eyes drifted shut, and saw a blanket of flowers floating on the placid waves of Augury Bay before exploding into a cloud of pollen that silenced lives as it seized the lungs. He woke with a choking start. For hours the rhythmic sound of a whetstone filled the shop as he sharpened a set of massive blades, his mind filled with images of strangling vines garroting neighbors, enwrapping homes. The flooding of Augury Bay had been nothing compared to the violent horrors the waters left to take root beyond the city walls. But the saw-suit would make him strong and safe he thought, allowing himself this sliver of hope before the full might of his fear crashed into his fading mind. Branches and blood. When the city fell, Rizzrack fled trees that walked, and fought, and killed. Trees had shattered the gates and swarmed into the city. Trees had crushed and thrashed and stomped the last that Augury Bay could muster in defense, and stalked the few fleeing refugees. In addled silence Rizzrack unspooled the thick chain from the suit's arm, his hands quaking as he inspected each link and ran a trembling finger along the claw attached at its end. The saw-suit was ready. With his hand trembling he sparked the bladed machine to life. Terror drove him, terror of what awaited him and of what he would have to face to have any hope of calming his mind. As the saw-suit shuddered to life he knew he must face this fear, and he knew he wouldn't like it one bit.

Voice:

TJ Ramini (Responses)

Abilities[edit]

Whirling Death

▶️

Ability
No Target

Affects
Enemies

Damage
Pure

Timbersaw whirls extremely sharp edges, damaging enemies and destroying trees around him in an area. If an enemy hero is affected, it loses some of its primary attribute for a short duration. Whirling Death will deal bonus damage per tree destroyed.

Cast Animation: +

Radius: 300

Base Damage: 90/120/150/180

Bonus Damage per Cut Tree: 12/18/24/30

Primary Attribute Reduction: 13%/14%/15%/16% (

25%/26%/27%/28%)

Attribute Reduction Duration: 14

6 (

5.1)

70

Attribute reduction persists if debuff was placed before spell immunity and when not dispelled.

Modifiers

Whirling Death Debuff: Dispellable with any dispel.

In the case that Rizzrack gets surrounded by the vines and plants of nightmares, he has an immediate chainsaw defense.

Notes:

Interrupts Timbersaw's channeling spells upon cast.

Whirling Death first applies the debuff, then the damage.

Reduces the total main attributes of hit enemy heroes, including bonus attributes.
- The reduction does not update if the target gains or loses attributes after the debuff is placed.

Before applying the damage, it first reduces current health by 20 for each point of strength it reduced.

Upon losing the debuff, enemies first only regain 19 health per missing strength point, before gaining their attributes back.

Has no effect on affected units' current mana percentage if intelligence gets reduced.

Cannot reduce any attributes below 0.

Debuffs from successive casts stack additively, with each cast placing a new debuff.

The attribute reduction fully affects illusions, Meepo clones and Tempest Doubles.

Timber Chain

▶️

Ability
Target Point

Affects
Self / Enemies

Damage
Pure

Timbersaw fires a chain that embeds itself in the first tree it hits, pulling him towards it. Any enemy in the path takes damage.

Cast Animation: +

Cast Range: 800/1000/1200/1400 (

2200/2400/2600/2800)

Max Travel Distance: 800/1000/1200/1400 (

2200/2400/2600/2800)

Tree Search Radius: 50

Damage Radius: 225

Damage: 100/140/180/220

4 (

3.4)

60/70/80/90

Getting rooted after cast does not stop the chain from latching and pulling Timbersaw.

Modifiers

Timber Chain: Undispellable.

You never know when you might need to escape from malevolent saplings.

Notes:

The chain travels at a speed of 1600/2000/2400/2800 and always travels either the full distance or until connecting with a tree.

Can connect to trees up to 850/1050/1250/1450 ( 2250/2450/2650/2850) range away (max travel distance + tree search radius).

The hooked tree is destroyed once the chain stops pulling.

Can pull Timbersaw over impassable terrain and through trees.

Timbersaw stops being pulled if he is disabled at any point during Timber Chain.

If Timbersaw is disabled before the chain starts pulling, the chain still pulls him for a very short distance
- This is still enough to cause damage around him to nearby units or to affect effects based on distance (e.g. Rupture).

Timbersaw can cast spells and items during the pull, but cannot attack.

The chain's tip briefly provides 100 radius ground vision around itself while traveling, and 400 radius ground vision once reaching max distance or connecting with a tree.

If Timbersaw dies during Timber Chain and then instantly respawns (e.g. after buying back), the pull still continues possibly moving him all across the map to the targeted tree.

Reactive Armor

Ability
Passive

Affects
Self

Each time Timbersaw is attacked, he gains increased health regen and armor.

Max Stacks: 6/12/18/24 (

14/20/26/32)

Armor Bonus per Stack: 1/1.1/1.2/1.3

Health Regen Bonus per Stack: 1/1.1/1.2/1.3

Stack Duration: 10/13/16/19

Prevents gaining new stacks. Already existing stacks still provide bonus health regeneration and armor.

Illusions gain stack and benefit from the regen, but not from the armor.

Modifiers

Reactive Armor Stack: Undispellable.

The saw-suit is equipped to react to the slightest touch with fortified defenses.

Notes:

Only procs when a unit lands an attack on Timbersaw, regardless of distance. This means it cannot proc on missed attacks.

Secondary attacks from Moon Glaives, Split Shot and Flak Cannon cannot trigger Reactive Armor.

Procs on the secondary attacks from other sources of instant attacks.

Procs on attacks from any unit, regardless of team or unit type (including wards and buildings).

Each successful attack on Timbersaw grants him 1 stack. The stack is added right before the attack's damage is applied.

Each stack has its own duration and is independent from other stacks. The amount of stacks is shown on the status buff icon.

Each stack can regenerate up to 10/14.3/19.2/24.7 health over their full durations.

This is how much health regeneration Reactive Armor grants with a certain amount of stacks on each level (including the talent max stacks bonus).
- Level 1: 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14
- Level 2: 1.1/2.2/3.3/4.4/5.5/6.6/7.7/8.8/9.9/11/12.1/13.2/14.3/15.4/16.5/17.6/18.7/19.8/20.9/22
- Level 3: 1.2/2.4/3.6/4.8/6/7.2/8.4/9.6/10.8/12/13.2/14.4/15.6/16.8/18/19.2/20.4/21.6/22.8/24/25.2/26.4/27.6/28.8/30/31.2
- Level 4: 1.3/2.6/3.9/5.2/6.5/7.8/9.1/10.4/11.7/13/14.3/15.6/16.9/18.2/19.5/20.8/22.1/23.4/24.7/26/27.3/28.6/29.9/31.2/32.5/33.8/35.1/36.4/37.7/39/40.3/41.6

This is how much armor Reactive Armor grants with a certain amount of stacks on each level (including the talent max stacks bonus).
- Level 1: 1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14
- Level 2: 1.1/2.2/3.3/4.4/5.5/6.6/7.7/8.8/9.9/11/12.1/13.2/14.3/15.4/16.5/17.6/18.7/19.8/20.9/22
- Level 3: 1.2/2.4/3.6/4.8/6/7.2/8.4/9.6/10.8/12/13.2/14.4/15.6/16.8/18/19.2/20.4/21.6/22.8/24/25.2/26.4/27.6/28.8/30/31.2
- Level 4: 1.3/2.6/3.9/5.2/6.5/7.8/9.1/10.4/11.7/13/14.3/15.6/16.9/18.2/19.5/20.8/22.1/23.4/24.7/26/27.3/28.6/29.9/31.2/32.5/33.8/35.1/36.4/37.7/39/40.3/41.6

The amount of stacks is also visually indicated by a dome which closes over on Timbersaw. The exhaust on the suit also starts emitting fire once the dome is fully closed.
- The dome has 4 fragments, each appearing for every 4 stacks (1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16). The dome opens again upon dropping below the given amount of stacks.

Chakram

▶️

Ability
Target Area

Affects
Enemies / Self

Damage
Pure

Fires your main saw blade at the target location where it will spin in place, dealing damage in an area around it. Enemies caught in the saw blade will move more slowly for every 5% of health missing. The blade deals damage and cuts down trees in its path when fired and retracted. While active the ability costs mana, and you lose the ability to attack.

Cast Animation: +

Cast Range: 1200

Effect Radius: 200

Pass Damage: 100/140/180

Damage per Second: 50/75/100

Move Speed Slow per 5% Max Health Missing: 5%

Mana Cost per Second: 16/23/30

Aura Linger Duration: 0.5

Passing Slow Duration: 0.5

8 (

6.8)

80/140/200

Grants a second Chakram.

Slow persists if debuff was placed before spell immunity and when not dispelled.

Modifiers

Chakram Disarm: Undispellable.

Chakram Debuff (passing): Dispellable with any dispel.

Chakram Debuff (stationary): Undispellable.

The ultimate in anti-flora weaponry.

Notes:

The Chakram travels at a speed of 900.
- Disarms Timbersaw as soon as the Chakram is launched, until the Chakram fully returns to Timbersaw.
- While traveling towards the target point, the blade deals pass damage and slow on enemy units within range once.
- Upon reaching the target area, the Chakram starts draining mana, dealing damage over time, and applying a slow aura.
- Drains 8/11.5/15 mana in 0.5 second intervals, starting 0.5 seconds after reaching the target area.
- Deals 25/37.5/50 damage (before reductions) in 0.5 second intervals, starting 0.5 seconds after reaching the target area.
- The Chakram stops draining mana and dealing damage over time as soon as it starts to return.
- While returning, the Chakram deals the pass damage to nearby units again and slows enemy units by placing a debuff again.
- The slow from passing (in both directions) lasts 0.5 seconds. The slow debuff from the aura while stationary lingers for 0.5 seconds.
- The slow debuff from passing and from the stationary aura are the same. However, the former is dispellable, the latter is not.
- A passing Chakram first applies the passing damage, then the debuff.

The Chakram returns to Timbersaw upon using Return Chakram or automatically if it gets more than 2000 range away.

The first 5% movement speed slow are applied at 100%–96% health, so it can slow for up to 100% when between 1% and 5% health.

Pass damage may only damage the same unit once when flying towards the targeted point, and once again when returning.

Applies damage before debuff.

The slows of multiple Chakrams (orange with blue, or multiple orange or blue Chakrams) do not stack.

Chakram provides 300 radius flying vision while spinning in place at the target area (but not while traveling).

Return Chakram

▶️

Ability
No Target

Returns the Chakram to Timbersaw.

Cast Animation: +

0

Notes:

Replaces Chakram until the orange Chakram has fully returned to Timbersaw.

Does not interrupt Timbersaw's channeling spells upon cast.

Second Chakram

▶️

Ability
Target Area

Affects
Enemies / Self

Damage
Pure

Fires a secondary saw blade at the target location where it will spin in place, dealing damage in an area around it. Additionally, for each 5% of health missing, enemies caught in the saw blade move more slowly. The blade deals damage and cuts down trees in its path when fired and retracted. While active the ability costs mana, and you lose the ability to attack.

Cast Animation: +

Cast Range: 1200

Effect Radius: 200

Pass Damage: 100/140/180

Damage per Second: 50/75/100

Move Speed Slow per 5% Max Health Missing: 5%

Mana Cost per Second: 16/23/30

Aura Linger Duration: 0.5

Passing Slow Duration: 0.5

8 (

6.8)

80/140/200

Slow persists if debuff was placed before spell immunity and when not dispelled.

Modifiers

Chakram Disarm: Undispellable.

Chakram Debuff (passing): Dispellable with any dispel.

Chakram Debuff (stationary): Undispellable.

Cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut!

Notes:

Requires Aghanim's Scepter to be unlocked.

If Aghanim's Scepter is acquired before Chakram was learned, this Chakram will be at level 1.

The level of this Chakram scales with the level of the main Chakram.

This Chakram is fully equivalent to the main Chakram. Two Chakrams act independently.

However, both Chakrams share a slow debuff, so they do not stack, but refresh each other.

Timbersaw is disarmed if either Chakram is out.

Return Chakram (Aghanim's Scepter)

▶️

Ability
No Target

Returns the Chakram to Timbersaw.

Cast Animation: +

0

Notes:

Replaces Second Chakram until the blue Chakram has fully returned to Timbersaw.

Does not interrupt Timbersaw's channeling spells upon cast.

Talents[edit]

Hero Talents
+1400 Timber Chain Range	25	+12% Whirling Death Attribute Reduction
15% Cooldown Reduction	20	+20 Strength
+8 Reactive Armor Stacks	15	+10% Spell Amplification
+2.5 Mana Regen	10	+225 Health

Notes:

The health talent increases maximum health capacity, and keeps the current health percentage.

The cooldown reduction talent stacks multiplicatively with other sources cooldown reduction.

The strength talent effectively grants Timbersaw 400 health, 2 health regen, 1.6% magic resistance and 20 attack damage.

Recent Changes[edit]

Main Article: Timbersaw/Changelogs

Version

Description

7.23

Increased base agility gain from 1.3 to 1.6.

7.22c

Increased base strength from 21 to 23.
Increased base mana regeneration from 0 to 0.25.

7.22

Increased strength gain from 2.8 to 3.2.
Increased intelligence gain from 2.4 to 2.7.
Increased base armor from -2 to -1.
Level 10 right talent: Replaced +25% experience gain bonus with +225 health bonus.
Level 10 left talent: Replaced 6% spell damage amplification bonus with +2.5 mana regen bonus.
Level 15 right talent: Replaced +100 attack damage bonus with +10% spell damage amplification bonus.
Level 15 left talent: Increased Reactive Armor max stacks bonus from 5 to 8.
Level 20 right talent: Increased strength bonus from 15 to 20.

Recommended items[edit]

Starting items:

Clarity restores mana to Timbersaw, useful throughout the game.
Tango provides ample regeneration for Timbersaw in the early game, and can also be planted as trees to use in combination with his abilities.
Healing Salve helps Timbersaw stay in lane.
Iron Branch gives a small boost to Timbersaw's attributes, and can build into a Magic Wand later in the game.
Enchanted Mango provides a source of mana in the early game.

Early game:

Soul Ring provides strength and mana for Timbersaw to survive and use abilities.
Arcane Boots are the boots of choice for Timbersaw, as they boost his overall mana pool and provide him with a periodic increase of mana for both him and his team. He can disassemble them to use the Energy Booster for Bloodstone.
Magic Wand increases Timbersaw's attributes, and gives health and mana restoration.

Mid game:

Hood of Defiance protects Timbersaw from magical damage. Along with Reactive Armor, Hood makes Timbersaw difficult to kill in the early to mid game.
Eul's Scepter of Divinity gives mana regeneration, movement speed, and a way to dispel disables such as silences.
Bloodstone provides excellent mana regeneration allowing Timbersaw to sustain his abilities. Furthermore, it provides him with a bit more health, health regeneration, and the ability to heal himself, which is always good for a hero who has to go deep in fights.

Late game:

Lotus Orb gives you good armor, dispel disables, and discourages enemy heroes from casting spells on you. It can also be applied on other allies in times of need.
Shiva's Guard makes Timbersaw considerably more durable due to the large amount of armor it provides. The large amount of intelligence it provides is also very beneficial as Timbersaw requires a lot of mana and mana regeneration to do well. The active ability also helps Timbersaw kill his foes since the slow allows him to be more precise with all of his spells and it adds another nuke on top of that. Shiva's can also make Timbersaw a decent initiator.
Aghanim's Scepter gives Timbersaw a second Chakram, allowing him to scale much better into the late game with even higher damage output. However, the mana cost of a second Chakram will deplete his mana very quickly; therefore a mana item like Bloodstone or Scythe of Vyse is mandatory before picking up this item.

Situational items:

Blade Mail allows Timbersaw to use the damage of his enemies against them. It also provides him with a small amount of intelligence, armor and 22 attack damage.
Holy Locket compliments Reactive Armor with bonus magic resistance and amplified health regeneration. The item also gives some mana so Timbersaw can keep using abilities.
Octarine Core is very powerful item for Timbersaw because of his low-cooldown spells. Besides boost to HP and mana pools the spell lifesteal allows him to maintain his own HP pool from that damage and can make him almost unkillable.
Scythe of Vyse allows Timbersaw to disable a single enemy hero, allowing both Timbersaw and his team to completely destroy the targeted hero.
Linken's Sphere can be situationally good against certain heroes with powerful single target spells.
Pipe of Insight provides Timbersaw with a large boost to his magic resistance, which can be very good against a team that can output a large amount of magical damage. In addition, this item provides a nice amount of health regeneration.
Orchid Malevolence can be a good pickup if you are having issues with an enemy disabling, silencing, or blinking away from you. On top of the silence the item brings, it gives Timbersaw even more mana regen and bigger mana pool, as well as extra damage output with the burst at the end of the silence. In combination with a Blink Dagger, Timbersaw becomes incredibly fearsome and can punish anyone out of position with ease.
Rod of Atos synergizes very well with Timbersaw, since the increased intelligence will allow him to cast more spells which deal more damage and the health will increase his survivability. The root from Atos will assist in landing Timbersaw's spells.
Heart of Tarrasque makes Timbersaw tanky with additional health and strength. The passive health regeneration is also very beneficial for Timbersaw as it means he can use Timber Chain to escape his enemies, and then he can gradually regenerate his health back up to full.

Gameplay[edit]


Roles:	Nuker Durable Escape
Complexity:	★★☆
Playstyle:	Rizzrack had good cause to be paranoid. Augury Bay fell to the walking trees, its inhabitants crushed under branch and bough. But that was the past. The new saw-suit changed everything. Its long Timber Chain shot out, grasping the nearest trunk and pulling the suit towards it. In an instant, a dozen trees fell in a circle to the oversized saw. Whirling Death, I'll call it! But that was not all. A press of the button, and the bladed Chakram flew into the forest, cutting down even the sturdiest of hardwoods. Delirious with success, Rizzrack sent the saw spinning in all directions, cackling until all that remained was a field of naked stumps. Now, he was ready to face his fears.

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History[edit]

Lore

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Changelogs

Equipment[edit]

Trivia[edit]

In DotA, Rizzrack's hero title was Goblin Shredder. Unlike his Dota 2 counterpart, he cut trees for profit and was not afraid of them.
His response upon killing Treant Protector ▶️ "If you fall in the woods, and I laugh, will anyone hear me?" is a reference to the popular philosophical question "If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?".
His response ▶️ "I'm not a lumberjack, and no, I'm not okay. I thank you." is a reference to "Monty Python's Flying Circus" in which they sing a song called "I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay".
His response ▶️ "Trees? Why did it have to be trees?" is a reference to the "Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Lost Ark" line "Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes?" ^[1]
Timbersaw's first and secondary Chakram colors may be a reference to the colors of portals of the games Portal and Portal 2, another series from Valve.
Timbersaw's ultimate, Chakram, is most likely a reference to the mythological disc-weapon of the Hindu deity Viṣṇu. The weapon's full name is "Sudarśana Cakra" (the transliterated "c" makes a "ch" sound) and it is considered one of the most powerful weapons in Hindu mythology.
Timbersaw's line when bottling a rune, ▶️ "This is my scheming face." may be a reference to the character Myron Reducto from "Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law".
Timbersaw is probably modeled after a type of goblin named kallikantzaroi who, according to folklore, stay underground sawing the world tree, so that it will collapse, along with the Earth. However, when they are about to saw the final part, Christmas dawns and they are able to come to the surface. They forget the tree and come to bring trouble to mortals. This very well explains Timbersaw's hatred towards trees.