Elder Titan/Counters

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Bad against...[edit]

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  • Brewmaster Earth icon.png Earth has passive Spell Immunity, allowing him to walk into the Echo Stomp radius to stun Elder Titan with his Hurl Boulder.
  • Brewmaster Storm icon.png Storm's Cyclone can cancel the channeling of Echo Stomp and take Elder Titan out of the fight for 6 seconds.
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  • Battery Assault's continuous mini-stun makes it hard for Elder Titan to cast his spells due to his poor cast animation.
  • Elder Titan's channelling with Echo Stomp makes a good setup for Hookshot if timed correctly.
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  • Frost Shield helps offset the armor reduction from Natural Order.
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  • With a lot of disables with good range, he might cancel your Echo Stomp.
  • Mana Drain can be used to drain Elder Titan's already low mana pool.
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  • Blade Fury makes Juggernaut immune to Elder Titan's stun, so there is a high chance he wont get caught in your ultimate although Earth Splitter pierces spell immunity.
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  • Untouchable makes her heavily reduce Elder Titan's physical damage output on her without Spell Immunity.
  • Enchant can purge Astral Spirit's buff without Spell immunity.
  • Nature's Attendants can protect her if she survives the full combo and manages to juke around.
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  • All of his spells can stun Elder Titan and interrupt Echo Stomp's channeling thanks to Aftershock.
  • Fissure is particularly good for that purpose thanks to its long range.
  • Elder Titan relies heavily on his spells and a chain-stun combo will usually be followed by certain death.


  • Heroes with long range stuns that can cancel Echo Stomp without getting into its radius.


Good against...[edit]

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  • Meepo lacks the disengages to escape a well-timed Echo Stomp, in particular if Elder Titan is his current target.
  • Clones are counted as heroes, increasing massively the power of Astral Spirit's buffs, including Aghanim's Scepter's spell immunity buff.
  • Meepo relies heavily on high agility and his mediocre strength gain makes him a very prized target for Natural Order.
  • Meepo and his clones like to group up to hunt and kill in teamfights or ganks and can be easily disabled together with Echo Stomp.
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  • Morphling's high armor is primarily from Morphing agility, which is reduced by Natural Order therefore making the hero very vulnerable when it has morphed a lot into agility.
  • Morphling usually will Morph into high agility and low strength. This can be taken advantage of with a good stun or silence or by bursting him down before he has the time to Morph back to strength.
  • Morphling is very vulnerable to Blade Mail icon.png Blade Mail under Natural Order and can easily burst himself down with his own auto-attacks or his magical damage combo.
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  • Phantom Lancer's lack of disables makes it hard for him to stop Echo Stomp's channelling.
    • However, due to the long cast time of his abilities, a good Phantom Lancer can use Manta Style icon.png Manta Style and/or Doppelganger to dodge the abilities.
  • Phantom Lancer's high agility and relatively low strength make him very vulnerable to Natural Order.
  • Additionally, Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter can clear his wave of illusions.
    • Should Phantom Lancer tries to increase his health by investing for Heart of Tarrasque icon.png Heart of Tarrasque, Earth Splitter does more damage to him and his illusions.
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  • Natural Order aura prevents Slark from gaining armor from the agility stolen with Essence Shift.
  • Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter can hit Slark through his Shadow Dance ultimate.
  • Slark's stats gain is relatively low compared to most agility carries making him quite squishy without his agility-based armor.
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  • Terrorblade has a high base armor, and relies on many ultimate orb-based items (Manta Style icon.png Manta Style and Eye of Skadi icon.png Eye of Skadi). Natural Order affects armor gained from agility, essentially reducing armor to zero if all armor is gained from agility. That effect combined with Terrorblade's low health can make a Elder Titan with an early value point in Natural Order a dangerous foe.
  • Terrorblade's illusions are often grouped up in teamfight, making them more vulnerable to Echo Stomp.
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  • Viper is an agility hero, and his item build mostly includes agility items, so Natural Order can be devastating, removing all armor and greatly decreasing the effectiveness of Corrosive Skin, weakening Viper's magic resistance. Additionally, Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter deal both magical and physical damage, and can help bringing Viper down fast.
  • Aghanim's Scepter icon.png Aghanim's Scepter may be necessary to take Viper down due to Nethertoxin's break.


  • Most agility heroes that rely on base armor to survive: Morphling minimap icon.png Morphling, Terrorblade minimap icon.png Terrorblade.
  • Slow heroes that have a hard time escaping the Echo Stomp radius: Crystal Maiden minimap icon.png Crystal Maiden, Pudge minimap icon.png Pudge, Techies minimap icon.png Techies.
  • Heroes with low mobility and/or lack of hard disables.
  • Heroes that tend to group up in fights.
  • Melee heroes that are punishable in the laning stage.
  • Heroes who don't build Black King Bar icon.png Black King Bar

Works well with...[edit]

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  • Chronosphere is the perfect setup for an Earth Splitter. Remember to cast your Astral Spirit inside the Chronosphere, to apply your Natural Order aura to the trapped heroes.
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  • Echo Stomp in combination with Kunkka's Torrent and Ghostship are a combination that can easily wipe an entire enemy team if executed correctly.
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  • The combined minus armor from Corrosive Haze and the Natural Order aura makes enemy heroes melt to physical damage.
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  • Luna's Lunar Blessing along with Astral Spirit can give Elder Titan enormous damage for basic attacks.
  • Echo Stomp and Earth Splitter can significantly disable enemy heroes, allowing Luna to easily kill them with Luna's Eclipse.