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Remove Shiva's Guard icon.png Shiva's Guard from Intelligence support heroes[edit]

I notice a lot of support heroes' item build page has Shiva's Guard icon.png Shiva's Guard including Keeper of the Light minimap icon.png Keeper of the Light,Ancient Apparition minimap icon.png Ancient Apparition,Bane minimap icon.png Bane,Witch Doctor minimap icon.png Witch DoctorWarlock minimap icon.png Warlock,Disruptor minimap icon.png Disruptor,Chen minimap icon.png Chen,Crystal Maiden minimap icon.png Crystal Maiden,Jakiro minimap icon.png Jakiro,Grimstroke minimap icon.png Grimstroke,Oracle minimap icon.png Oracle,Silencer minimap icon.png Silencer,Shadow Shaman minimap icon.png Shadow Shaman. However,

  • Those hero are generally considered to be supports
  • Shiva's Guard icon.png Shiva's Guard is too luxury for support role, only super toxic support can build it
  • low build rate in both pub and pro games(most of them has less than 0.1% build rate)
  • They are ranged and have ranged abilities, they usually will not get too close to enemy(Hard to active Shiva's ability)
  • even they build it, their survivability still a problem.
  • There are always better items for them to build
  • And build such expensive item, buyback gold will increase about 400.
  • Slow effort does not that obvious.

I think we should remove Shiva's Guard icon.png Shiva's Guard from all of them. Should I do that? I am no so sure. --神乐坂桐樱 (talk) 21:42, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

The Future of eSports pages[edit]

Since no one reads/updates the tournament pages anymore, I'm gonna remove Tournaments box from the front page, and the Competitive Scene icon on top will eventually be replaced by a Lore icon. The International will still be covered with a page + big banner each year. If no one has any objections, I'll be doing this soon. - Lemoncake(talk) 13:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

How about add some kind of redirection or notice to https://liquipedia.net/dota2/ as that wiki mainly focus on the tournaments, teams and players.Maybe like the redirection in Perfect World to the wikipedia. It looks like the wiki-writers who cares tournaments prefer to update the information on the Liquidpedia. And maybe the users also prefer to check the results from Liquidpedia. --神乐坂桐樱 (talk) 20:14, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Or maybe we only save the pages for the most important tournaments(for example: the international of each years), the current active teams who join the majors and the TIs. And clean up/delete the information on the old majors(No one will read them) and disbanded teams (There are better places to check those things). And give brief information on the Dota2 Pro Circuits of current year and maybe previous years. We obviously don't have enough writers to update them, but we can simply record the most important events on the history of Dota2 Tournaments. For interested new players, they can check this page to understand how the Dota2 esport works nowdays and get to know the famous teams or players that are discussed frequently by the dota2 community. When I was a new player, I want to check some pro-game videos and I indeed suck due to the long history of dota community. I was hoping someone can give me some advice which team or tournaments I should follow. I finally know the TIs and Dota2 Pro Circuits are the most important ones. --神乐坂桐樱 (talk) 21:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

This site's owners probably don't want us linking to a competitor site. As for the rest, we've never had anyone who can consistently update the esports stuff for more than a few months, the Competitive Scene page has only been updated like twice in two years, so I really doubt this will change. I don't watch esports but I'll still do a TI page each year, but the rest is just not worth the time. - Lemoncake(talk) 22:43, 11 March 2019 (UTC)